[203] Other thinkers, which include Douglas Hofstadter, dismiss this argument as incoherent.[204] Several psychologists and ethologists have argued with the existence of animal consciousness by describing a range of behaviors that look to indicate animals holding beliefs about things they can not specifically understand—Donald Griffin's 2001 e book Animal Minds https://dominickoxnlv.blogminds.com/the-5-second-trick-for-parallel-universe-33123459